It's always a pleasure to visit Budapest, so a kick-off for STAR-II in Budapest in early June would be perfect for us.
Thanks and best.
David
On 16/04/2018, 07:56, "sziklay.julia@naih.hu" sziklay.julia@naih.hu wrote:
Dear David, we have no problem with an early start if you agree that the kick-off meeting takes place in Budapest. Julia dézet (David Wright David.wright@trilateralresearch.com):
> Hi, Gabor, > > Is there a problem for you starting STAR II at the beginning of June? > > Best. > > David > > > From: star-bounces@listserv.vub.ac.be on behalf of Gábor Kulitsán > kulitsan.gabor@naih.hu > Organization: NAIH > Date: Friday, 13 April 2018 at 10:48 > To: 'Lina JASMONTAITE' Lina.Jasmontaite@vub.be > Cc: "star@listserv.vub.ac.be" star@listserv.vub.ac.be > Subject: Re: [star] STAR II: preparation of the GA > > Dear Lina, > Dear All, > > Our bank details have been validated, so we added the bank details > in the EC portal and we also signed the DoH. > Taking into account your comments I would suggest 9th or 16th July > to start the project. If it is OK for you I will set it in the system. > If you have no objections, we would host the Kick-off Meeting of > STARII with pleasure, but if you have any suggestions, please let us > know. > > Best, > Gábor > > > From: Lina JASMONTAITE [mailto:Lina.Jasmontaite@vub.be] > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 5:32 PM > To: Kulitsán Gábor kulitsan.gabor@naih.hu; > Filippo.Marchetti@trilateralresearch.com > Cc: star@listserv.vub.ac.be > Subject: Re: [star] STAR II: preparation of the GA > > Dear Gabor and Filippo, > > Many thanks for your input. We will adapt Annex B accordingly and > upload it not the EC portal by the end of this week. > Starting the project at the end of June may be problematic for VUB > as we are going to host the third summer school on data protection. > The beginning of June or mid July would be better for us. > > Best regards, > Lina Jasmontaite > Doctoral researcher > Law, Science, Technology and Society (LSTS) > Vrije Universiteit Brussel (VUB) > Brussels Privacy Hub (BPH) > Room 4B306, Pleinlaan 2, 1050 > Brussels, Belgium > > www.vub.ac.be/LSTS/http://www.vub.ac.be/LSTS/ || > www.vub.ac.behttp://www.vub.ac.be || > www.brusselsprivacyhub.orghttp://www.brusselsprivacyhub.org > > > > > > On 10 Apr 2018, at 16:04, Kulitsán Gábor > <kulitsan.gabor@naih.humailto:kulitsan.gabor@naih.hu> wrote: > > Dear Lina, > > Thank you for your e-mail. Here are our answers: > > > 1. Missing info in the PP: Details of NAIH department that is > going to carry out the project are added. As I informed you last > week we have not signed the Declaration of Honour yet because of the > followings: we could not select our Bank Account in the EC Portal > yet, because first we had to update our organisation’s data on the > Participant Portal by uploading the duly completed Financial > Identification form. We did this last Friday, but the validation of > this bank account may take a few days. Once it is validated we will > select it in the EC portal, and then we will validate the partner > summary info and we will also sign the Declaration of Honour. I > already asked the PO (Anne De Wolf) and the Validation Service (Kim > Schotanus) whether we can or have to sign the DoH without our bank > details being verified, but I have not received any answer so far. > > > 1. Starting date of the Project: We also would suggest to start > the project earlier than August. Last week of June may be appropriate. > > > 1. Scope of the Project: We agree with Filippo’s suggestion. > > > 1. Hotline: NAIH will not be able to operate the hotline in > multiple Languages. English (and Hungarian of course) is OK, but it > is unfortunately highly unlikely that we will have / we can find > such colleagues who know other languages at a high level. Because it > is essentially a pilot project, we plan to operate the hotline for > 12 months for a start. First we have to see whether it is worth to > be operated or not, and if it will be successful and there will be a > need for it, it can be operated longer of course. > > > 1. Results: We agree with Filippo’s suggestions and of course we > can incorporate the content of the Project’s website on NAIH’s > website. > > Best, > Gábor > > > From: > star-bounces@listserv.vub.ac.bemailto:star-bounces@listserv.vub.ac.be > [mailto:star-bounces@listserv.vub.ac.be] On Behalf Of Filippo > Marchetti > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 12:05 PM > To: Lina JASMONTAITE > <Lina.Jasmontaite@vub.bemailto:Lina.Jasmontaite@vub.be> > Cc: star@listserv.vub.ac.bemailto:star@listserv.vub.ac.be > Subject: Re: [star] STAR II: preparation of the GA > > Dear Lina, > > Thank you for your email. Please find TRI's answers enclosed. > > > > > > Part A: the missing points include: > > * TRI validation of PIC status, so far it’s marked as DECLARED > TRI-IE is now validated. Should the system still show differently, > please let us know. > > > > > > * Starting date of the project: it can be the first day of the > month after the entry into force of the GA or we can agree on a > fixed starting date. We prepared timeline projections of STAR and > STARII projects in order to see ‘peak times’. We consider August to > be the most optimal date for starting STARII. > We would strongly advise in favour of June as a starting month for > the following reasons: > > * The first operative Workstream of the project regards the > mapping of stakeholder needs. August would not be the best month to > commence a stakeholder mapping activities due to holidays and > conflicting deadlines. > * We have the impression that the EC approved this project so > quickly for us to start asap. While May is not feasible for us, we > would be able and prefer to start on 1 June. > * The stakeholder mapping activities of STAR will be concluded > by the end of May. Therefore, following up sooner with other > interviews in a new project will help us consolidate our contacts > with DPAs and DPOs. > > > > > > > Part B: we have prepared a draft Annex B. For it to be completed we > need to agree upon changes that we are going to make in the DOW > based on the comments provided in the evaluation form. These > comments concern: > > The scope of the project: > > > * The geographical spread of the proposal is not very clear. How > are you going to benefit all SMEs and data protection authorities in > all EU Member States if the practical activities are targeting one > single Member State (Hungary), and indirectly others? > * The target group is very broad, consisting of all SMEs in the > EU, on the one hand, and data protection authorities on the other > hand. How could we explain t this approach and what is the benefit > of providing such a Europe-wide effort? > * It is difficult to understand in the way the project is > written, whether the specific activities of the project target only > Hungarian SMEs or all SMEs in the EU. > We suggest to add a few lines describing how we will identify our > target for interviews and for the other activities, such as by > identifying key industries and business sectors to ensure a > consistent efficacy of the services. This would both serve as a > reassurance for the EC that the project is targeting the EU and not > just Hungary, and at the same time it would cast light about how we > aim to achieve a broad beneficial effect across sectors. > > > > > > The hotline: > > > * This activity is not entirely convincingly presented. It is > stated that the hotline will be operated in English and Hungarian, > with other languages on needs basis. The results of the hotline > questions will again form a basis for research activity. > * The e-mail based "hotline" is planned for one year, and it is > not clear whether or how it will continue. > > We suggest to reassure them that the hotline will be operated by > NAIH but that the other partners will support NAIH in answering > questions in other languages. We suggest to make some examples of > other languages we speak in the consortium, such as Dutch, Italian, > German … > > > > > > Results: > > > * The EU-wide general handbook for SMEs raises challenges in > terms of addressing a wide variety of fields and types of SMEs in > various countries, which means the handbook remains quite general in > nature and thus might duplicate the already existing (CoE/FRA > general handbook). There are also some national differences in > implementation of data protection rules that the project might not > consider fully. > We are not sure that we should systematically consider all national > implementing legislation to the GDPR, as it would broaden the scope > of our handbook research beyond our capabilities. What we could do > is to decide 2-3 legal systems to focus on and compare when it comes > to analyse rules that need national implementation. > > With regard to the risk of an overlap with the CoE general handbook, > we could underline that our approach would be different: while that > handbook is mainly focused on giving a plain overview of the > legislation, basically repeating the legislation, ours would tackle > specific issues, such as DPO, DPIAs, the right to be forgotten, > etc., based on the responses we collect from SMEs. To put it > differently, we could reassure them that our handbook will be an > issue-focused handbook rather than a general handbook. > > * The responsibility regarding updating of the handbook is unclear. > We could reassure that the handbook will be updated at the end of > the project and that we are confident that at that point it will > cover most of the relevant issues. > > * It is quite unlikely that SMEs might read about the project in > an academic journal. Relying mainly on academic analysis in the EU > as a whole, the needs assessment is not followed by the examination > of the specific needs of the Member States. > It is true that SMEs do not read academic journals, but this is not > the only way we connect with companies under this project. > > * The project website will be maintained for two years only > after the end of the project. It’s suggested to incorporate the > content of the website on the NAIH’s website. > We could consider to maintain the standalone website for 4 years, as > it happens with other H2020 websites. > > > Best wishes, > > Filippo > > > > > > > > > [Image removed by sender.] > > Dr Filippo Marchetti > > Trilateral Research Ltd. > > 72 Hammersmith Road, London W14 > 8THhttps://www.google.com/maps/place/Crown+House,+72+Hammersmith+Rd,+Hammersmith,+London+W14+8TH/@51.4945025,-0.2159555,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m8!1m2!2m1!1s72+Hammersmith+Road,+London+W14+8TH!3m4!1s0x48760fc063bcb7d3:0x15677ec4b20794b!8m2!3d51.4945025!4d-0.2137668 > > +44 (0) 2075593550tel:+442075593550 > > www.trilateralresearch.comhttp://www.trilateralresearch.com/ > > [Image removed by sender.]https://join.skype.com/invite/blxVbvjlCHEv > > [Image removed by sender.]https://twitter.com/fmarchetti_tri > > [Image removed by sender.]https://www.linkedin.com/in/filippomarchetti/ > > > > > > > > Il giorno 05 apr 2018, alle ore 09:25, Lina JASMONTAITE > <Lina.Jasmontaite@vub.bemailto:Lina.Jasmontaite@vub.be> ha scritto: > > > Dear all, > > Almost all information that is necessary for the completion of the > grant agreement has been entered into the EC portal. > > Part A: the missing points include: > > > * Details of NAIH department that is going to carry out the > project and NAIH’s validation of partner summary info > * TRI validation of PIC status, so far it’s marked as DECLARED > * Starting date of the project: it can be the first day of the > month after the entry into force of the GA or we can agree on a > fixed starting date. We prepared timeline projections of STAR and > STARII projects in order to see ‘peak times’. We consider August to > be the most optimal date for starting STARII. > > > Part B: we have prepared a draft Annex B. For it to be completed we > need to agree upon changes that we are going to make in the DOW > based on the comments provided in the evaluation form. These > comments concern: > > The scope of the project: > > > * The geographical spread of the proposal is not very clear. How > are you going to benefit all SMEs and data protection authorities in > all EU Member States if the practical activities are targeting one > single Member State (Hungary), and indirectly others? > * The target group is very broad, consisting of all SMEs in the > EU, on the one hand, and data protection authorities on the other > hand. How could we explain t this approach and what is the benefit > of providing such a Europe-wide effort? > * It is difficult to understand in the way the project is > written, whether the specific activities of the project target only > Hungarian SMEs or all SMEs in the EU. > > > The hotline: > > > * This activity is not entirely convincingly presented. It is > stated that the hotline will be operated in English and Hungarian, > with other languages on needs basis. The results of the hotline > questions will again form a basis for research activity. > * The e-mail based "hotline" is planned for one year, and it is > not clear whether or how it will continue. > > > Results: > > > * The EU-wide general handbook for SMEs raises challenges in > terms of addressing a wide variety of fields and types of SMEs in > various countries, which means the handbook remains quite general in > nature and thus might duplicate the already existing (CoE/FRA > general handbook). There are also some national differences in > implementation of data protection rules that the project might not > consider fully. > * The responsibility regarding updating of the handbook is unclear. > * It is quite unlikely that SMEs might read about the project in > an academic journal. Relying mainly on academic analysis in the EU > as a whole, the needs assessment is not followed by the examination > of the specific needs of the Member States. > * The project website will be maintained for two years only > after the end of the project. It’s suggested to incorporate the > content of the website on the NAIH’s website. > > > Could you please provide your suggestions on how we should address > comments made in the evaluation by COB 9 April? > > > > Best regards, > > Lina Jasmontaite > > Doctoral researcher > > Law, Science, Technology and Society (LSTS) > > Vrije Universiteit Brussel (VUB) > > Brussels Privacy Hub (BPH) > > Room 4B306, Pleinlaan 2, 1050 > > Brussels, Belgium > > > > > http://secure-web.cisco.com/15PF1KlBZlHULJPYUQqz7GcWNhHguO5Erk3ohn3AiBXFKYBZ... || http://secure-web.cisco.com/1rGBrw6DfMuRF1PGJbF-lJ-54m8ajR0E-2IyoxEfCJfhMtr_... || > http://secure-web.cisco.com/1fk-ioUDs0tp2pD3TdGsejRS_B74qo_tnDw168MW3cT2M3Tn... > > > > > > > <STARII & STARI.xlsx>_______________________________________________ > STAR mailing list > STAR@listserv.vub.ac.bemailto:STAR@listserv.vub.ac.be > https://listserv.vub.ac.be/mailman/listinfo/star